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	<title>Comments on: I&#039;m Just Not That Into &quot;Theories Of Change&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: bradrourke</title>
		<link>http://blog.bradrourke.com/2009/06/18/im-just-not-that-into-theories-of-change/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>bradrourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth, I have always liked that quote and thank you for bringing it into the mix!

What I like about it is the radical antiphilanthropy it embodies. (And I mean that in a positive way.) That may be my contrarian nature coming out.

I look forward to seeing you in New Hampshire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, I have always liked that quote and thank you for bringing it into the mix!</p>
<p>What I like about it is the radical antiphilanthropy it embodies. (And I mean that in a positive way.) That may be my contrarian nature coming out.</p>
<p>I look forward to seeing you in New Hampshire.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy to have found your blog!

I hear what you are saying about helping people, so this isn&#039;t to contradict it, but rather to share a quote/idea that was important to me in thinking about my desire to help people. Maybe it is too revolutionary for your taste....

&quot;If you have come to help me, then don&#039;t waste your time. But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together.&quot;

The quote is often attributed to an Aboriginal activist group from Queensland, Australia in the 1970s. It is specifically from Lila Watson, who was one of the group members, but she said she that she was not comfortable being credited for something that had been born of a collective process.

Anyway, just a thought. I&#039;ll look forward to hearing more from you at the upcoming conference in New Hampshire. All the best, Elizabeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to have found your blog!</p>
<p>I hear what you are saying about helping people, so this isn&#8217;t to contradict it, but rather to share a quote/idea that was important to me in thinking about my desire to help people. Maybe it is too revolutionary for your taste&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you have come to help me, then don&#8217;t waste your time. But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together.&#8221;</p>
<p>The quote is often attributed to an Aboriginal activist group from Queensland, Australia in the 1970s. It is specifically from Lila Watson, who was one of the group members, but she said she that she was not comfortable being credited for something that had been born of a collective process.</p>
<p>Anyway, just a thought. I&#8217;ll look forward to hearing more from you at the upcoming conference in New Hampshire. All the best, Elizabeth</p>
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		<title>By: bradrourke</title>
		<link>http://blog.bradrourke.com/2009/06/18/im-just-not-that-into-theories-of-change/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>bradrourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik, I should have replied to this sooner. You make excellent points. It is incredibly difficult to &quot;prove&quot; results of so much of what we do. On the other hand, we need to make SOME kind of case that we&#039;re having an effect -- even if only to ourselves, to keep us toiling away.

It&#039;s a tough dilemma, I don&#039;t have a good answer yet. Although, I do find promise in a portfolio approach to assessment (taking a cue from educational assessment here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik, I should have replied to this sooner. You make excellent points. It is incredibly difficult to &#8220;prove&#8221; results of so much of what we do. On the other hand, we need to make SOME kind of case that we&#8217;re having an effect &#8212; even if only to ourselves, to keep us toiling away.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough dilemma, I don&#8217;t have a good answer yet. Although, I do find promise in a portfolio approach to assessment (taking a cue from educational assessment here).</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Ledbetter</title>
		<link>http://blog.bradrourke.com/2009/06/18/im-just-not-that-into-theories-of-change/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Ledbetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, this really strikes a cord.  A major part of my work involves public diplomacy.  My organization partners with the US Department of State to arrange partnerships between US museums and museums abroad in which the two museums bring their respective communities together to work on a joint project.  This can be exploring a common problem, shared history, or mutual opportunity.

We do so in the conviction that ordinary citizens, being themselves and interacting directly as they practice their professions, are the best ambassadors and the best architects of mutual understanding among peoples.  It&#039;s our conviction that a teenager abroad who works with a US museum curator on one of these exchanges may take from it a different sense of the US--a sense of connection--which pays dividends somewhere 10, 20, or 30 years down the road when that teenager becomes an adult participant in his or her own society.

Now, in a world of results-based philanthropy, can I prove this?  Absolutely not.  An outcomes-based assessment at the end of the project won&#039;t capture it--the payoff we are after takes place years after the project ends.  And will anyone fund us to do a long-range study?  No, not on your life.

So here is a program that embodies what the papers and think tanks are calling for: citizen diplomacy.  And in a world in which we strictly follow outcomes-based philanthropy, we would have no choice but to strangle it in its crib in favor of funding something more assessable.

There&#039;s something wrong in this scenario...

Erik Ledbetter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, this really strikes a cord.  A major part of my work involves public diplomacy.  My organization partners with the US Department of State to arrange partnerships between US museums and museums abroad in which the two museums bring their respective communities together to work on a joint project.  This can be exploring a common problem, shared history, or mutual opportunity.</p>
<p>We do so in the conviction that ordinary citizens, being themselves and interacting directly as they practice their professions, are the best ambassadors and the best architects of mutual understanding among peoples.  It&#8217;s our conviction that a teenager abroad who works with a US museum curator on one of these exchanges may take from it a different sense of the US&#8211;a sense of connection&#8211;which pays dividends somewhere 10, 20, or 30 years down the road when that teenager becomes an adult participant in his or her own society.</p>
<p>Now, in a world of results-based philanthropy, can I prove this?  Absolutely not.  An outcomes-based assessment at the end of the project won&#8217;t capture it&#8211;the payoff we are after takes place years after the project ends.  And will anyone fund us to do a long-range study?  No, not on your life.</p>
<p>So here is a program that embodies what the papers and think tanks are calling for: citizen diplomacy.  And in a world in which we strictly follow outcomes-based philanthropy, we would have no choice but to strangle it in its crib in favor of funding something more assessable.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something wrong in this scenario&#8230;</p>
<p>Erik Ledbetter</p>
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		<title>By: David Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
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